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The 5 a.m. business
Is it crazy to build a business before your real job? The one-hour, one-task rule.
From garage to 200,000 subscribers
Daniel filmed a table on his phone for a dare. Now 200,000 people watch him build.

When to quit your job
Lena's three-line spreadsheet, quitting in slow motion, and a listener's voice note.
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Sponsor the showYour hosts
Two friends, one microphone
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Lena Ortiz
Founder of two side businesses
Quit her design job three years ago with a spreadsheet and a plan. Asks the questions everyone is too polite to ask.
Sam Okafor
Engineer, four days a week
Kept his day job and builds on Fridays. The show's resident sceptic and spreadsheet critic.
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Daniel ReyesWoodworker and video maker
Priya NairBuilds small apps for freelancersYour turn
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